Arts and Sciences Curriculum Committee

Minutes of the meeting of November 14, 2006

Convened at 3:30 p.m.

 

Present:  Professors Bayers, Davidson, Garvey, Harriott, Rosivach (chair), Salafia, Weiss, Wills,

    Dean Snyder

 

Agenda:

 

1.     Announcements

 

Rosivach indicated that various odds and ends from the previous meeting had been taken care of. One question in particular concerned the name of the art history course, "Art History 109:  Jewish Art: Moses to Modernity" was correct. The answer is yes, that is the correct course name.

 

2.     Approval of Minutes

 

September 16, 2006 minutes were approved, with minor changes. Bayers noted that his comment on page 3, under Literary Journalism course, should reflect that Simon advised all journalism students (not all students). Weiss noted that there was a typo on page 2 in the section on Bi 375, the four question marks should be deleted.

 

¤       Garvey moved to approve; Davidson seconded. Approved unanimously.

 

3.     New course proposals:

 

Re: LAC 295 – Service Experience in Latin America and the Caribbean

 

Rosivach asked for a motion to approve, which came from Davidson and was seconded by Harriott. 

 

While the overall view of the course was positive, there were many questions. Weiss began by asking how do you balance 120 hours with 40 hours (depending on whether course is taken in Summer or Winter)? Davidson suggested that the 40 hours in Winter was just the service component while there was also an online component. Weiss thought there should be a preparatory component in Summer too. In spite of Davidson's best efforts to explain his understanding of the service learning nature of the course as a model that was being widely accepted, Weiss still seemed uncertain how the equivalence was achieved, as well as when, where, and how research was done, etc.

 

Weiss also asked where the "Guide for Reflection" was? It was supposed to be attached. It was agreed that the guide was missing.

 

Weiss asked how transportation, housing, and other costs figure into the course. Davidson presumed this would go through the new office of experiential learning that is being set up. Rosivach thought students would pay, as they do for study abroad. Davidson pointed out that that was not necessarily so. For the Beijing program, students only have to pay for transportation. Weiss continued that she was curious, but Davidson suggested that the issue might not be in the committee's purview anyway.

 

Weiss asked about the service evaluation form that should be attached. She could not find it, and it also seemed to be missing.

 

Weiss found it problematic that under purpose, it was specified that LAC 295 counts toward the minor or the individually designed major in LACS. Rosivach indicated that it just meant that this course could be one of the courses a student might consider for an individually designed major. Weiss accepted the explanation but indicated that she still had a problem with the terminology.

 

Weiss asked where is the service experience agreement form? It also seemed to be missing. Rosivach and Davidson responded that this was a standard form that was available in the study abroad office, and need not be appended.

 

Rosivach pointed out that what we do with regard to this course will have consequences beyond this particular course. There is a real push for experiential service learning and we should expect to see more coursed s presented to us for approval. Weiss responded that she thought this was indeed a well prepared course; it was just that she had lots of questions about it. She did not wish her questions to be taken as anything but questions.

 

Davidson wondered whether the chair could request the appropriate offices (e.g., study abroad) to provide the committee with relevant materials such as those that had come up in our discussions, so that the committee would be in a better position to evaluate these proposals.

 

Weiss raised further questions about the course, specifically about grading and the fact that 30% of the grade was assessed by a non Fairfield U person. The subsequent discussion concerned maintenance of academic standards, and the like. Davidson felt that ultimately we might have to rely on some outsiders, sometimes.

 

Snyder wondered if anyone had any idea how they will fund the course. (The Dean had not been present for the previous, brief discussion of this issue.) He related a the history of a previous course and the enormous problems that were raised by not having this information spelled out. Ultimately the president  had to make the final decision on funding.

 

Harriott felt that the purposes of the course were well spelled-out, but that they could be applied to any service learning course. She was not sure whether this was a problem or not. Some discussion ensued about how the course was developed. Ultimately, while the purpose seemed to be a bit like a standard template, it was felt that it adequately applied to this particular course.

 

The questions kept coming and finally, Davidson suggested that, given the extraordinary nature of the discussion on this course and the many concerns raised, we should consider tabling it and inviting relevant parties, e.g., Prof. Sourieau, Prof. Crabtree, etc., to respond to all of the concerns about funding, oversight, academic templates, student access, etc.

 

¤       Davidson moved to table until our Dec. 5 meeting; Garvey seconded. Approved unanimously.

 

Re: GR 327 - Advanced Greek Readings III

 

Davidson asked of Rosivach whether, in light of the fact that they were in the middle of a search, he envisioned a time when Ancient Greek could be taught as a regular course rather than an overload? The discussion of this peripheral issue was somewhat extended, but not particularly relevant to the current course proposal, and there was no apparent resolution.

 

¤       Weiss moved to approve the course; Davidson seconded. Approved unanimously.

 

Re: CO 569 – Continuing Thesis Research

 

¤       Davidson moved to approve the course; Garvey seconded. Approved unanimously.

 

4.     Cross-listing of courses

 

Rosivach indicated that the issue dealt with offering credit for courses in other departments: What does this involve?  What, if any role, does the A&SCC have in this? He had received questions about this, and needed answers. This came up in the context of a communication from the Asian Studies Program that listed all of their offerings. He figured he would just throw the issue on the table since the A&SCC did not seem to have a specific policy on the issue.

 

Salafia mentioned PY 203 Statistics for the Life Sciences, which is cross listed as BI 203. He did not recall needing A&SCC approval. The course had been set up with the approval of the two departments. Davidson said that the same had been true of the course "Evil" that carries credit in both Philosophy and Religious Studies departments.

 

Rosivach felt that what was important was that the relevant faculties had reviewed the course. After that it merely became an administrative matter. It need not come to the A&SCC. On the other hand, the actual giving of separate numbers for the same course was another issue, and he wondered whether we saw the need to get involved.

 

In response to some questions, Salafia gave a bit of the history of BI/PY 203. The course had been taught for many years to Psych majors as a required course. There was a very different stats course in the Bio department, but many Bio majors had opted to take the Psych course. I approached the instructor of the Bio course who happily agreed to give up the stats course for another preferred course. Since the Psych course was already set up as a research and hypothesis-testing oriented course, it satisfied the requirements of Biology and did not have to be revised, except for the obvious inclusion of some additional biological examples and data.

 

Weiss said she was aware of courses like RS 48 and PH 48, and the like. But she wondered about a course for the Asian Studies minor. Does it get an Asian Studies number; the answer from several committee members was no.

 

Rosivach simply reiterated that he, as chair of the A&SCC, had received the list from the Asian Studies Program , and was unsure ho to proceed, but did not want to make policy on his own. This was "Case1." Additionally, there was the issue of the same course listed in two departments, e.g., PH 48/RS 48. What should policy be on that? This is Case 2." Is it sufficient to receive approval on the department level, or should it come to this committee under whatever form?

 

Davidson saw no problem regarding Case 2, s long as the course has been properly approved by all relevant committees.

 

Snyder felt that the committee should at least be consulted. Maybe there was no problem with departments, but there could be some with programs. Coming before the A&SCC would at least insure a conversation.

 

Davidson wondered whether it might just be a question of advisement to the directors of programs. Perhaps the Dean's concerns are more properly issues for the Dean's office than for this committee.

 

Garvey pointed out the English does a fair amount of cross-listing. She raised a specific question of a student who took a course that was cross-listed with English and Theater. The student had taken the course as a Theater course and now wanted it to count as English core. Garvey did not know whether there was a policy on that. Weiss and Davidson gave examples of courses where there are specific rules for what may be counted for what. 

 

Rosivach suggested that a subcommittee of two members of A&SCC should be formed to research the issue and propose some sort of policy, or at least resolution for  Bayers and Salafia were pressed into service for the subcommittee.

 

 

 

5.     Special topics courses:

 

Rosivach indicated that the A&SCC had approved a policy statement on this in May 2002 and forwarded it to the College Faculty for action. He contacted Susan Rakowitz, the Secretary of the College Faculty, and she could find no record that the issue had been taken up.

 

Rosivach's guess was that the papers failed to be passed on during a transition of officers. The question is what should we do now? Should we discuss it further, or should we approve it and forward it, as is, for approval of the College Faculty.

 

After some general discussion and clarification, there was general agreement that Rosivach should do the latter.

 

Salafia motioned to adjourn, and Wills seconded. 

 

The meeting ended at about 4:40. 

 

 

Respectfully submitted,

Ron Salafia

Recording Secretary